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Ireland pitches itself to film industry - India's
Bloomberg News, THURSDAY, JANUARY 19, 2006

DUBLIN Ireland, deserted by Hollywood moviemakers in favor of cheaper East European locations, is courting the next best thing: Bollywood.

Foreign spending on movies in Ireland fell to a nine-year low in 2005 after countries like Romania and Hungary lured filmmakers away with lower costs and bigger tax incentives. But by courting India, the Irish hope to turn the exodus around while promoting an even bigger Irish industry: tourism.

Prime Minister Bertie Ahern, who is on a weeklong trade mission to India, has joined his arts minister, John O'Donoghue, this week in pitching Ireland as the next great location for Indian movies.

"Bollywood is the second largest film industry in the world and we are anxious to attract inward investment," O'Donoghue said in an interview in Dublin before the trip. "We have very experienced film crews and the locations are quite unique."

Ireland, which served as the backdrop for "Braveheart" "Saving Private Ryan" in 1997, is now seeking to attract Indian stars like Abhishek Bachchan, Shah Rukh Khan and Bipashu Basu.

While the Bollywood budgets pale in comparison with Hollywood's, India's filmmakers are prolific. The Bollywood film industry, which is based in Mumbai, formerly Bombay, produces about 800 films a year. It has shot scenes for 11 movies in Ireland since 2002.

"If Ireland blends into the script and the budget is affordable, why not?" said Sujoy Ghosh, whose recent Hindi films include "Jhankaar Beats" and "Home Delivery," in a telephone interview from Mumbai.

Overseas spending on film production in Ireland fell to E51 million, or $62 million, in 2004, the lowest level since 1996, from E211 million the previous year, according to the Irish Audiovisual Federation. Provisional figures indicate investment declined again in 2005, it said.

"The international market has become incredibly competitive," Louise Ryan, information officer at the Irish Film Board, said in a telephone interview. "We look at India as diversifying. You can't put all your eggs in one basket."

O'Donoghue's delegation from the Irish Film Board is specifically looking to attract investment from Mumbai. Most of the Indian filmmakers who have already used Ireland are based in Madras, in the southeast of the country, and produce lower-budget titles.

"To date, most of the shoots have been small scale," said Brendan Goss, a line producer on seven Indian films made in Ireland, in a telephone interview from Dublin. "We would hope to spread the word to the bigger film industry centers in India and see if a couple of the big boys might come over."

In the past, tax breaks for film production helped make Ireland a major stop for Hollywood productions. The main tax break, known as Section 481, allows filmmakers to save as much as 12 percent of their budgets in tax rebates. The amount of a film's budget on which the relief can be claimed is limited to E15 million.

The Irish government also helped draw investment by providing extras. It allowed the armed forces to act for the D-Day scene of "Saving Private Ryan." Many soldiers also took part in battle sequences for "Braveheart."

Then, in 2004, Hungary began providing a 20 percent rebate on production costs, the most generous giveback in Europe.

Steven Spielberg in 1997 shot the D-Day landing sequence of "Saving Private Ryan" on beaches in Wexford, 90 miles, or 150 kilometers, south of Dublin. His latest movie, "Munich," about an Israeli squad assigned to track down Palestinian terrorists who killed 11 athletes at the 1972 Olympic games, was filmed in Budapest.

"Our Section 481," O'Donoghue said, "has been copied elsewhere and improved upon. There are very strong arguments for either raising the cap significantly or getting rid of it altogether, if one wants to get in very large productions."

Another factor in Ireland's success was skilled and relatively cheap film crews.

"The real nuts and bolts - the construction crews, the camera crews - these people came from Ireland and they were great," said Jonathan Glikman, president of Spyglass Entertainment Group, which made "The Count of Monte Cristo" and "Reign of Fire" in Ireland in 2001. "I had no complaints about anything."

But Hungary and other competitors for Hollywood budgets like the Czech Republic are offering even cheaper labor these days. East European wages are about a fifth of those in Ireland, the euro region's fastest growing economy.

"We're up against it in terms of what is on offer in Budapest or Prague," said Goss, the Irish producer. "They've got nonunionized labor forces in the film industry and tax incentives coming on stream. It's cheaper labor, yet highly skilled."

Scenes from Tom Cruise's "Mission Impossible," "xXx" with Vin Diesel, and "From Hell," starring Johnny Depp, were shot in the Czech Republic.

And while the Irish have talked about sweetened tax incentives, the country may have to struggle again in competition for Bollywood money.

"Eastern Europe wouldn't be alien territory to these guys," Goss said. "They are always looking for new locations."

With 10 million people in India going to the movies every day, Bollywood could help Ireland improve tourism.

Helped by Bollywood films being shot in the Swiss Alps, Switzerland attracts about 75,000 visitors from India a year, said Jim Paul, head of Tourism Ireland's developing markets division.

DUBLIN Ireland, deserted by Hollywood moviemakers in favor of cheaper East European locations, is courting the next best thing: Bollywood.

Foreign spending on movies in Ireland fell to a nine-year low in 2005 after countries like Romania and Hungary lured filmmakers away with lower costs and bigger tax incentives. But by courting India, the Irish hope to turn the exodus around while promoting an even bigger Irish industry: tourism.

Prime Minister Bertie Ahern, who is on a weeklong trade mission to India, has joined his arts minister, John O'Donoghue, this week in pitching Ireland as the next great location for Indian movies.

"Bollywood is the second largest film industry in the world and we are anxious to attract inward investment," O'Donoghue said in an interview in Dublin before the trip. "We have very experienced film crews and the locations are quite unique."

Ireland, which served as the backdrop for "Braveheart" "Saving Private Ryan" in 1997, is now seeking to attract Indian stars like Abhishek Bachchan, Shah Rukh Khan and Bipashu Basu.

While the Bollywood budgets pale in comparison with Hollywood's, India's filmmakers are prolific. The Bollywood film industry, which is based in Mumbai, formerly Bombay, produces about 800 films a year. It has shot scenes for 11 movies in Ireland since 2002.

"If Ireland blends into the script and the budget is affordable, why not?" said Sujoy Ghosh, whose recent Hindi films include "Jhankaar Beats" and "Home Delivery," in a telephone interview from Mumbai.

Overseas spending on film production in Ireland fell to E51 million, or $62 million, in 2004, the lowest level since 1996, from E211 million the previous year, according to the Irish Audiovisual Federation. Provisional figures indicate investment declined again in 2005, it said.

"The international market has become incredibly competitive," Louise Ryan, information officer at the Irish Film Board, said in a telephone interview. "We look at India as diversifying. You can't put all your eggs in one basket."

O'Donoghue's delegation from the Irish Film Board is specifically looking to attract investment from Mumbai. Most of the Indian filmmakers who have already used Ireland are based in Madras, in the southeast of the country, and produce lower-budget titles.

"To date, most of the shoots have been small scale," said Brendan Goss, a line producer on seven Indian films made in Ireland, in a telephone interview from Dublin. "We would hope to spread the word to the bigger film industry centers in India and see if a couple of the big boys might come over."

In the past, tax breaks for film production helped make Ireland a major stop for Hollywood productions. The main tax break, known as Section 481, allows filmmakers to save as much as 12 percent of their budgets in tax rebates. The amount of a film's budget on which the relief can be claimed is limited to E15 million.

The Irish government also helped draw investment by providing extras. It allowed the armed forces to act for the D-Day scene of "Saving Private Ryan." Many soldiers also took part in battle sequences for "Braveheart."

Then, in 2004, Hungary began providing a 20 percent rebate on production costs, the most generous giveback in Europe.

Steven Spielberg in 1997 shot the D-Day landing sequence of "Saving Private Ryan" on beaches in Wexford, 90 miles, or 150 kilometers, south of Dublin. His latest movie, "Munich," about an Israeli squad assigned to track down Palestinian terrorists who killed 11 athletes at the 1972 Olympic games, was filmed in Budapest.

"Our Section 481," O'Donoghue said, "has been copied elsewhere and improved upon. There are very strong arguments for either raising the cap significantly or getting rid of it altogether, if one wants to get in very large productions."

Another factor in Ireland's success was skilled and relatively cheap film crews.

"The real nuts and bolts - the construction crews, the camera crews - these people came from Ireland and they were great," said Jonathan Glikman, president of Spyglass Entertainment Group, which made "The Count of Monte Cristo" and "Reign of Fire" in Ireland in 2001. "I had no complaints about anything."

But Hungary and other competitors for Hollywood budgets like the Czech Republic are offering even cheaper labor these days. East European wages are about a fifth of those in Ireland, the euro region's fastest growing economy.

"We're up against it in terms of what is on offer in Budapest or Prague," said Goss, the Irish producer. "They've got nonunionized labor forces in the film industry and tax incentives coming on stream. It's cheaper labor, yet highly skilled."

Scenes from Tom Cruise's "Mission Impossible," "xXx" with Vin Diesel, and "From Hell," starring Johnny Depp, were shot in the Czech Republic.

And while the Irish have talked about sweetened tax incentives, the country may have to struggle again in competition for Bollywood money.

"Eastern Europe wouldn't be alien territory to these guys," Goss said. "They are always looking for new locations."

With 10 million people in India going to the movies every day, Bollywood could help Ireland improve tourism.

Helped by Bollywood films being shot in the Swiss Alps, Switzerland attracts about 75,000 visitors from India a year, said Jim Paul, head of Tourism Ireland's developing markets division.

DUBLIN Ireland, deserted by Hollywood moviemakers in favor of cheaper East European locations, is courting the next best thing: Bollywood.

Foreign spending on movies in Ireland fell to a nine-year low in 2005 after countries like Romania and Hungary lured filmmakers away with lower costs and bigger tax incentives. But by courting India, the Irish hope to turn the exodus around while promoting an even bigger Irish industry: tourism.

Prime Minister Bertie Ahern, who is on a weeklong trade mission to India, has joined his arts minister, John O'Donoghue, this week in pitching Ireland as the next great location for Indian movies.

"Bollywood is the second largest film industry in the world and we are anxious to attract inward investment," O'Donoghue said in an interview in Dublin before the trip. "We have very experienced film crews and the locations are quite unique."

Ireland, which served as the backdrop for "Braveheart" "Saving Private Ryan" in 1997, is now seeking to attract Indian stars like Abhishek Bachchan, Shah Rukh Khan and Bipashu Basu.

While the Bollywood budgets pale in comparison with Hollywood's, India's filmmakers are prolific. The Bollywood film industry, which is based in Mumbai, formerly Bombay, produces about 800 films a year. It has shot scenes for 11 movies in Ireland since 2002.

"If Ireland blends into the script and the budget is affordable, why not?" said Sujoy Ghosh, whose recent Hindi films include "Jhankaar Beats" and "Home Delivery," in a telephone interview from Mumbai.

Overseas spending on film production in Ireland fell to E51 million, or $62 million, in 2004, the lowest level since 1996, from E211 million the previous year, according to the Irish Audiovisual Federation. Provisional figures indicate investment declined again in 2005, it said.

"The international market has become incredibly competitive," Louise Ryan, information officer at the Irish Film Board, said in a telephone interview. "We look at India as diversifying. You can't put all your eggs in one basket."

O'Donoghue's delegation from the Irish Film Board is specifically looking to attract investment from Mumbai. Most of the Indian filmmakers who have already used Ireland are based in Madras, in the southeast of the country, and produce lower-budget titles.

"To date, most of the shoots have been small scale," said Brendan Goss, a line producer on seven Indian films made in Ireland, in a telephone interview from Dublin. "We would hope to spread the word to the bigger film industry centers in India and see if a couple of the big boys might come over."

In the past, tax breaks for film production helped make Ireland a major stop for Hollywood productions. The main tax break, known as Section 481, allows filmmakers to save as much as 12 percent of their budgets in tax rebates. The amount of a film's budget on which the relief can be claimed is limited to E15 million.

The Irish government also helped draw investment by providing extras. It allowed the armed forces to act for the D-Day scene of "Saving Private Ryan." Many soldiers also took part in battle sequences for "Braveheart."

Then, in 2004, Hungary began providing a 20 percent rebate on production costs, the most generous giveback in Europe.

Steven Spielberg in 1997 shot the D-Day landing sequence of "Saving Private Ryan" on beaches in Wexford, 90 miles, or 150 kilometers, south of Dublin. His latest movie, "Munich," about an Israeli squad assigned to track down Palestinian terrorists who killed 11 athletes at the 1972 Olympic games, was filmed in Budapest.

"Our Section 481," O'Donoghue said, "has been copied elsewhere and improved upon. There are very strong arguments for either raising the cap significantly or getting rid of it altogether, if one wants to get in very large productions."

Another factor in Ireland's success was skilled and relatively cheap film crews.

"The real nuts and bolts - the construction crews, the camera crews - these people came from Ireland and they were great," said Jonathan Glikman, president of Spyglass Entertainment Group, which made "The Count of Monte Cristo" and "Reign of Fire" in Ireland in 2001. "I had no complaints about anything."

But Hungary and other competitors for Hollywood budgets like the Czech Republic are offering even cheaper labor these days. East European wages are about a fifth of those in Ireland, the euro region's fastest growing economy.

"We're up against it in terms of what is on offer in Budapest or Prague," said Goss, the Irish producer. "They've got nonunionized labor forces in the film industry and tax incentives coming on stream. It's cheaper labor, yet highly skilled."

Scenes from Tom Cruise's "Mission Impossible," "xXx" with Vin Diesel, and "From Hell," starring Johnny Depp, were shot in the Czech Republic.

And while the Irish have talked about sweetened tax incentives, the country may have to struggle again in competition for Bollywood money.

"Eastern Europe wouldn't be alien territory to these guys," Goss said. "They are always looking for new locations."

With 10 million people in India going to the movies every day, Bollywood could help Ireland improve tourism.

Helped by Bollywood films being shot in the Swiss Alps, Switzerland attracts about 75,000 visitors from India a year, said Jim Paul, head of Tourism Ireland's developing markets division.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Ireland pitches itself to film industry - India's Reply with quote

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Ireland pitches itself to film industry - India's
Bloomberg News, THURSDAY, JANUARY 19, 2006

DUBLIN Ireland, deserted by Hollywood moviemakers in favor of cheaper East European locations, is courting the next best thing: Bollywood.

Foreign spending on movies in Ireland fell to a nine-year low in 2005 after countries like Romania and Hungary lured filmmakers away with lower costs and bigger tax incentives. But by courting India, the Irish hope to turn the exodus around while promoting an even bigger Irish industry: tourism.

Prime Minister Bertie Ahern, who is on a weeklong trade mission to India, has joined his arts minister, John O'Donoghue, this week in pitching Ireland as the next great location for Indian movies.

Filming in foreign countries is very attractive to US film makers for number of reasons.
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Yes, big tax breaks sounds like one of the benefits. The film crews probably encounter less gawking also, especially if the actors are not as well known in these other countries, compared with the attention they might get in Britain or the States.
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Yes, big tax breaks sounds like one of the benefits. The film crews probably encounter less gawking also, especially if the actors are not as well known in these other countries, compared with the attention they might get in Britain or the States.

If I understand correctly, if you hire over a certain percentage of crews, actors and actresses, you can get tax break in UK. That's also a good benefit.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it sounds like the tax break is a trade off for creating jobs for the local economy. That seems like a win-win situation.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One tax reform I want really want to see is simplification of tax code. This will benefit everyone. Accountants and lawyers will find their work anyway, so we don't really need to worry about accountants and lawyers.
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One tax reform I want really want to see is simplification of tax code.


I hear you on that. I take it you mean the United States? Our country has been lulled to sleep over the last 100 years about taxes. Hopefully, the current tax reform movements will take hold in the mainstream so some real positive change can take place.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hear you on that. I take it you mean the United States?

Yes. I have no idea why anyone wants to have such a complex tax code. Simplification of tax code helps all individuals and businesses. They can potentially save a lot of money in accounting and other related administrative work. That means increase in income, which means bigger tax income for the government. Everyone wins.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might be interested in HR 25. It is the latest juggernaut piece of legislation designed to eliminate the IRS. It has been kicked around for a couple years now. It provides for a national sales tax with some exceptions. Deterrents are mainly special interest groups who have a stake in the present tax code.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this it?

FairTax

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The FairTax legislation was introduced in 2005 to the 109th United States Congress as H.R. 25 in the House of Representatives and as S. 25 in the Senate. Its formal name is the Fair Tax Act of 2005. On February 8, 2006, the legislation had 50 cosponsors in the House and Senate—. John Linder remains the bill's primary sponsor, and former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert support the bill. The Senate bill is sponsored by Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss of Georgia.

There has been no difference in any form of the FairTax legislation since it was originally filed in the 106th congress as HR 2525, except for the dates (when it was submitted to each congress, when it would take effect, etc.).

The document was originally published at Wikipedia and the document is licensed under GNU Free Document License. If you'd like to find out more about FairTax, you might be interested in visiting this page in Wikipedia.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got it! It is quite detailed in its reach. Basically a national sales tax to eliminate the IRS.
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PeterGibbons wrote:
You got it! It is quite detailed in its reach. Basically a national sales tax to eliminate the IRS.

One thing I'm wondering about is that a lot of people are taking real tax reform very seriously. Steve Forbes even ran for US president to push his flat tax proposal. Yet no fundamental change has been made so far. How come?
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I think it might be for similar reasons as alternative forms of energy not taking hold. Oil interests control energy policy like special interest groups control tax policy.
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